Oregon SB 765 Attack on Small Scale Miners

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Oregon SB 765 Attack on Small Scale Miners

Postby cobill » Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:38 pm

Our club just received this email traffic from Oregon....they just keep on coming and everyone needs to take action!
Out of State dredging permits will be $2,500 !!!:o

Bill



Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 14:49:00 -0800
From: greenejc_39@yahoo.com
Subject: Oregon SB 765 Attack on Small Scale Miners
To:




Please help! Even a very short note asking Oregon State legislators to vote against SB765 and its unreasonable attack on the small-scale mining community would be of great assistance. If you require further information please contact me ..Joe Greene at greeneenvironmental@yahoo.com or phone me at 541 929-5745

Thanks, Joe



From: Tom Quintal <quintalt@gmail.com>
To: '
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: RE: SB 765


Yes this needs to be sent to all in state and out of state mining associations, GPAA, ICMJ and any miners you know. We will need a strong write in campaign and miners testifying at the Capitol against this bill. For those who do not know who Senator HASS is, he one of the past presidents of the Portland Sierra Club. I suspect Senator Bates is a GREENIE. You will notice the S.O.B Rhino Republican co-conspired with his two GREEN buddies to push this measure. If this bill gets past the House it most likely will pass in the Senate. So my suggestion now that you all have the information to write a letter, email their office or call them direct, it will be up to all of us to participate in this process. Each one of you have your own Representative and a Senator, so you can make your wishes known to them as well.

WHEN YOU WRITE A LETTER, E-MAIL OR MAKE A PHONE CALL: PLEASE REQUEST YOUR PHONE CALL, LETTER OR E-MAIL BE PUT IN THEIR OFFICE FILE FOLDER FOR A PUBLIC RECORD AGAINST SB 765. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND IS USED WHEN A BILL COMES BEFORE A COMMITTEE HEARING. When I find out which committee this bill is assigned, you will receive the same information listed below for each committee member so you can phone, e-mail or write a letter to each member. Again, requesting your information be placed in their SB 765 office file folder. As a side note, and I know this for a fact, when the pit bull legislation bill was introduced some time back the legislative folks received thousands of phone calls from other states, even from Canada and the bill was stopped in its tracks. If the animal lovers can pull it off, maybe we should get the word out to our neighboring states and their mining associations to start calling the sponsors of this bill. The information below is all they need folks. This information is on the Oregon Legislative web site.
Tom Q, WVM

Senator Jason Atkinson
Party: R District: 2
Capitol Phone: 503-986-1702
Capitol Address: 900 Court St NE, S-415, Salem, OR, 97301
District Office Address: PO Box 1704, Grants Pass, OR, 97528
Email: sen.jasonatkinson@state.or.us
Website: http://www.leg.state.or.us/atkinson

Senator Mark Hass Party: D District: 14
Capitol Phone: 503-986-1714
Capitol Address: 900 Court St NE, S-207, Salem, OR, 97301
District Office Address: PO Box 536, Beaverton, OR, 97075
Email: sen.markhass@state.or.us
Website: http://www.leg.state.or.us/hass

Senator Alan C Bates Party: D District: 3
Capitol Phone: 503-986-1703
District Phone: 541-282-6502
Capitol Address: 900 Court St NE, S-205, Salem, OR, 97301
District Office Address: 2859 State Street #101, Medford, OR, 97501
Email: sen.alanbates@state.or.us
Website: http://www.leg.state.or.us/bates


From: Desi J Rains [mailto:winstondjr@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 10:52 PM
To: quintalt@gmail.com
Subject: RE: SB 765

Thanks Tom, Is this ok for release to the rest of the mining clubs? ....Desi[Tom, WVM] YES, PLEASE DO RIGHT AWAY.

From: quintalt@gmail.com
To: chase3285@msn.com
Subject: RE: SB 765
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:16:15 -0800

Thanks Chuck for catching this bill. I missed it completely. This is why it is so important to have as many eyes on the legislative bills that affect miners as possible.

Unfortunately the term Recreational dredge mining is written in state statutes. Looks like my river restoration equipment should be exempt???

Once again the heavy hand of government preys on the lowly miner for more TAXES or a fine with their class (C) misdemeanor threat to pay this TAX.

Looks like this S.O.B. has spent more time setting up his bill then he let on with Tom Kitchar and Mark W. when they visited his office recently. This is not the information that was discussed when they visited at that time. This is one of the longest bills I can remember being introduced in a legislative session, so he has conspired for some time to have it researched and written by legislative council. Oregon Scenic Water statutes will not allow dredging with SB 765 even though this bill mentions it and ORE. PARKS and DSL will not authorize such a permit. Miners will really need to step up and testify against this unreasonable bill. I don't think the county clerks will be happy to act as a tax collector or sell permits and send the money to a special fund for law enforcement. This $50.00 permit is an annual fee/tax and county site specific, so each county you want to work will cost an Oregon resident $50.00. That goes for each non-resident paying the $2500.00 fee/tax also. Those acquainted with the Oregon Legislative Web site, please search this bill every day to see which committee it is assigned too.

This is the status of the bill and since it is a revenue measure it will need to be introduced in the House side.
Senate Bill 765
Introduced ( html | pdf )

SB 765 By Senators ATKINSON, HASS; Senator BATES -- Relating to recreational dredge mining; declaring an emergency.
02/17 (S) Introduction and first reading. Referred to President's desk.



Tom Q, WVM





From: CHARLES CHASE [mailto:chase3285@msn.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:01 PM
Subject: Fw: SB 765

This must be the one that deals with out of State miners..... Chuck
Subject: SB 765


Here's another, I just copied section 3 of the bill.
SB 765
SECTION 3. (1) A person may not practice recreational dredge mining in this
state unless
the person acquires a recreational dredge mining license from a county. A
recreational
dredge mining license is valid only in the county that issues the license.
(2) Each county shall establish a process by which the county clerk issues
recreational
dredge mining licenses. Each county clerk shall charge for the issuance of
a recreational
dredge mining license a fee of:
(a) $50 for a resident; or
(b) $2,500 for a nonresident.
(3) A recreational dredge mining license expires one year after the date on
which the
county issues the license.
(4) At the time that a person applies for a recreational dredge mining
license, the person
must declare whether the person intends to practice recreational dredge
mining on a scenic
waterway. If the person intends to practice recreational dredge mining on a
scenic waterway,
the county clerk shall transmit the person’s application to the Department
of State Lands
so that the Director of the Department of State Lands may make a finding
under ORS 390.835
(2). The director shall return the application to the county clerk within
two weeks of receiving the application.
(5) The county clerk shall deposit all fees collected under this section
into an account
maintained by the county treasurer. The moneys in the account and the
interest earned by
the account are reserved for the purpose of funding law enforcement
activities related to
enforcing section 2 of this 20
Tami Green, c.c.c.
Baker County Clerk
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Re: Oregon SB 765 Attack on Small Scale Miners

Postby CalGoldDredger » Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:50 pm

You can thank "the master promoter" Dave McCraphead for this one too. - "Fantastic New Suction Dredging Opportunity in Southern Oregon" :evil: Why stop at Cal, lets go for Oregon, too. Maybe Idaho next. :evil: :evil:

The Klamath Cancer be a spreading some more!!!! :evil:

This is what happens when you leave your legal and political affairs to be handled by a greedy, self centered, egotistical bastard. F'M' hope he gets his soon!!!!! Hopeful I will be right there a :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Oregon SB 765 Attack on Small Scale Miners

Postby ROKONRANDY1 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:32 pm

In the real world a bill starts in the house then goes to the senate, then the Gov. This does not have to happen. Ok the cancer from Ca. You can thank Jerry Hobbs for the cancer. He was paid to do it. And most of you were alerted to the con and got suckered any way. rokonrandy be happy
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Re: Oregon SB 765 Attack on Small Scale Miners

Postby Joe S (AK) » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:34 am

I spoke with the Oregon Tourism Comission (800.547.7842) and made them aware of the proposed Senate Bill 785. I pointed out how it would disasterously impact any mining activity coming in from other states. I pointed out that changing the non-resident license fee from $50 per county to $2,500 per county would force any seasonal miner to seek other states to operate in.

I presented the idea that the legislature was sabotaging all the constructive work that the Tourism Commission had done over the years.

Loss of tax revenues (and the income losses to rural businesses) was a biggie since the more fragile, rural, economies - across the state - most benefit from the economic stimulus of mining. Fuel, maintenance, lodging, food and other purchases (not to mention JOBS) were pointed out as being in the balance if this Senate Bill was allowed to proceed. Just the threat of these kinds of losses, throughout Oregon, made them sit up and listen to every word I said. The references I made to the internet, as a national source of information on this proposed Senate Bill, sent shivers through the folks I spoke with. It was a wooden stake to the heart of Oregon Tourism and Oregon's economic structure - and I let them know that.

I'm disheartened in the response here that all these problems are self generated within the mining community. Certainly if you have 'issues' with PLP and the New 49ers then I suspect it's time for those miners (who are now part of the problem) to relocate much farther north - say British Columbia - where PLP and the New 49ers are not a factor (and dredging is illegal).

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Re: Oregon SB 765 Attack on Small Scale Miners

Postby CalGoldDredger » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:14 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: your opinion.

But even better yet how abouts we make some phone calls a get Dave's passport and visa revoked stranding him in Cambodia. They can keep him. :twisted:

Anyhow, as far as the Oregon permits go, what is another $2500 for those who paid the $3500 new 49er club fee?
If the dredging is so "fantastic" as was loudly proclaimed, then it would be worth it. Right - "an ounce a day" that is what was beeining sold, only take less than two days to pay the permit. :lol:
I just knew that they were going to screw up Oregon's dredging too, by the mass promoting that we seen.

Oh frickin well, we got our own problems here in Cal, happens to be the same group from the so called "mining community" that caused them both. :evil: SO again F'M' . :x

BE LOOKING FEBRUARY 28th SEIR & REGS RELEASED :x :x :x
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Re: Oregon SB 765 Attack on Small Scale Miners

Postby Hoser John » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:48 am

:? lets see---checkn 'my list twice :( 55 gallon barrel of KY check :shock: sandpaper condom check :cry: cryn' towel check :oops: passport validated and current..check :evil: no mystery here just pain as the insideous antidredging cancer from the klamath spreads is tentacles yet further into the very fabric of society :twisted: to quote Heston (RIP)" DAMN'M ALL TO ll" AND NO TONS A AU 2 US EITHER-John :evil:
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