Getting more umph outta a cheap engine

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Re: Getting more umph outta a cheap engine

Postby Reno badboy » Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:51 pm

Yea, I guess a two stage system is a bit much for a Harley.(110-165) It does real neat things to pistons!!!(Valves too I guess!)( Oh yea,the rods also!) 16 over springer,rigid,jockey shift,3" open belt drive on a 100" stroker motor! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
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Re: Getting more umph outta a cheap engine

Postby Bill44 » Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:21 am

I'm a slow starter Russ.And learner four that matter.
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Re: Getting more umph outta a cheap engine

Postby Gold Seeker » Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:29 am

If you get an engine with a keyed shaft and have it threaded, you need to make sure the length of the shaft is correct and the shoulder on the shaft to be in the correct place on the shaft or the pump won't work on it since the impeller screws all the way to the shoulder of the shaft, the length of the shaft and where the shoulder is located on the shaft is important for the impeller to be in correct location within the pump housing.

Someone was telling me to other day that they owned a new Keene P-180 pump that fits a 5/8" keyed shaft, but I haven't called Mark Keene to find out if that is a fact or not, I would suggest calling Keene to find out, it would make a lot of sense for Keene to make a keyed pump IMHO, if it's a fact that Keene makes one now you would still need the shaft to be of the correct length and have the shoulder be correct as well, so that is another question that should be asked if you call Keene.

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Re: Getting more umph outta a cheap engine

Postby Hoser John » Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:59 am

Lovejoy couplers fix it all as many configurations and ez to do-John
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Re: Getting more umph outta a cheap engine

Postby Bill44 » Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:23 pm

You're rite john a lovejoy would work.most all industrial pumps use them.Skip thats a good point when I threaded my 1in shaft someone post the spec's over on 49ers mikes back when it was tom ashworths.And they where the same as the threaded.One thing I can't understand is why all the pump manufacturs don't have the coupling stile pumps like I have on my 3-4-5 golddivers.Keyed or threaded works great and tons of room four the air compressure pully. Bill
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Re: Getting more umph outta a cheap engine

Postby dickb » Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:07 pm

You guys are talking apples and oranges here.

A direct mount pump is lighter and cheaper to build than a pedistal mount pump. The space the direct mount pump takes up is smaller than a pedistal pump.
I happen to like the pedistal type better for maintence reasons, the bearing are stronger and easier to replace and seals will change easier as well. The belt to run the air compressor is much easier to change with a flexible coupling also. So I feel the extra cost and weight is offset. One other thing worth mentioning is that the keyed shaft motor is much easier to find if the motor dies out in the bush somewhere.

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Re: Getting more umph outta a cheap engine

Postby russau » Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:19 pm

16 over springer,rigid,jockey shift,3" open belt drive on a 100" stroker motor! **********back in the early 70s i was building a flathead(45) with a 26 over Springer on a ridgid frame! but thats back when i had hair on my entire head! i sold it after my first child was born!
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Re: Getting more umph outta a cheap engine

Postby Bonaro » Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:11 pm

You would be surprised what you can make a Harley do if you ask her real nice 8-)
I cant run with the 100's, I only got a little 88 :lol:

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Re: Getting more umph outta a cheap engine

Postby Reno badboy » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:27 am

Yehaw Mabel!!!! What is that lil' beast pittin' out? Nice bike bud!!! :o :shock: :o :shock:
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Re: Getting more umph outta a cheap engine

Postby russau » Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:11 am

yep, them were the days! i crashed my last bike in 86 and got one heck of a limp from it and a bigger hospital bill to boot. i sure did like riding! now its a ATV out of neccesity!
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