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[russau]

Bill, i dunno? my heads still spinning! i think i need a drink!

[Hoser John]

EZ BCR-CalD Dredger posted this thread over a month ago to assist miners and has been badgered and insulted ever since. I have no problems with your list of my friends as I consider you and them mining advocates who I respect and admire. If anything I stated makes you think we are feuding that is absolutely incorrect. With the boss away I've kept a closed mouth(never ez for me) for a couple a weeks whilst CGDJohn got sniped to death. I wanted to help russau as our moderator by eliminating myself from the rant on John but COULD NOT do it any longer. I truly want to apologize to Russau but I will never recant anything. This political garbage should be in politics and not prospecting forum as it started out as a aid of knowledge and turned into a CGDJohn screw fest and intolerable. Sorry Russ ol'bud--and Leonards you too bud doubly---I'll not visit this insane thread anymore as I tried not to before-John

[russau]

with the info i have read/heard, i can see both sides to this issue. 1st hand info i dont have, so i have to go by what ive heard and read about this.and i know things can be twisted or understood differently by different people.so i have to just read/hear about whats up and figure on the middel of the road. but 1st hand info is whats needed to truely know whats up!

[bill-costa rica]

john

not to exasperate the problem , butt… the never ending but. Dan and john (cal gold) I think are about the same age ? Dan does not believe in breaking the law ! he doesn´t know what civil disobedience is or what it is about. john ( calgold) was raised by people like you and me hoser. he has a different outlook on things. does not make Dan wrong. but I don`t agree with him !!! I respect him for who he is. and for what he does….. calgold is good people !!!! you are good people as is Dan…. just don´t like to see this shit going around the way it is………. I mean if there were some dipshits involved I would say let the chips fall where they may…
but all the people involved should be on the same page.!!!!! I think I need another beer !!!

can´t we all just get along ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿


bill-cr

[russau]

Bill, ill drink to that!

[Bonaro]

Hi Bill

I know exactly what civil disobedience is and I support it as a way for free people to challenge the excess of government. A group of people can willfully break the law in protest or demonstrate in public and it can be a good thing. I support it and practice it myself when necessary.

Sneaking into a canyon and dredging for gold during a statewide ban then bragging about it on the internet is not civil disobedience and does nothing to benefit anyone but the one person doing it. It is greed. At the same time it paints the entire user group with a lawless and boorish paintbrush. I am not in that user group but thanks to a few dim bulbs, I have paint on me and I don't want it.

The bottom line is, I really could not care less what anybody does, legal or not. If you are intent on going renegade, Fine, just shut the hell up and let the responsibility of your actions start and end with yourself. A lot of people read this forum....Do not implicate me as a fellow miner in your hillbilly antics!

As far as being on the same page...hell no, neither of them will ever be my spokesman for anything.

[bill-costa rica]

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[placerau]

catch me ifn' ya' can man-went saturday and had a ball,cold,wet but a sure bet-F'M' one and all-

Hoser John,

No wonder that they have the nickname.... "Kalifornication" I guess that there will be more people going into the forests, with a southern setting, so they can grow their "Green Gold" instead of the real gold that comes from the rivers. I wonder which is worse....... having people dump fertilizer, and pesticides, and Lord knows what else they try and get rid of.I'm sure that they don't care about the environment , just their smoke able gold. At least dredgers and yes High bankers Not only try their best, But they do the best that is good for the rivers and the spawning salmon. I know that I have made many a beautiful spawning spots that I am positive, would be used if we had salmon in the Mokelumne River. There are lots of places like "Roaring Camp" that have dams blocking any migrating species of fish from coming up the river. On the Mokelumne River they have 3 dams before coming up to the north, south, or middle forks of the river. There hasn't been a salmon spawn in the RC area in 40-50- years. Just the Molones Dam (pardon the spelling) alone won't let them travel up to spawn. Well here I am starting to ramble on and on about something that has been discussed, and beat like a dead salmon, or spotted owl until we are blue in the face. Getting ready to sell my 3-4-and 5 inch dredges unless my plan to retire to Colo. works out the way I'm hoping it will. I'm sure Leonard and Ed, and fellow miners they know, would be more than accommodating to areas that can be dredged legally. Not find big gold, but gold none the less (according to Leonard) and that alone will make me a very happy dredger. Leonard I also need some of your Louisiana Hot Sauce and Jalapeno scrambled eggs for breakfast, and beer..... lots of beer.
OK I'll stop bending your ears now. And again the best of luck out there in "Kalifornication".

Bye for now............